TE Revolution components

Overview:

The Revolution system has many add-on boards, and a number of revisions of them. I've decided to make a separate page for them for organizational purposes.

Note that some of these may no longer be available.


57073 - Smoke control board

I believe there are 2 relays on the opposite side, you can control 2 higher current devices (contacts rated 2.5 amps)

57073a


57076 -Capacitor bank

Shortly after first public release, all kinds of reports of problems with track power appeared. Aristo now says you need this board if you run from track power. It consists of six 3300 mfd 35 volt capacitors. Please note, there have been some reports of failed capacitors, and Aristo (Lewis Polk) has recommended reducing your maximum voltage to the Revolution TE to 22 volts. (Be aware this can make a significant difference on top speed)

The original 57076 capacitor bank had 6 capacitors on it, as Crest was learning about how glitches in power were affecting the Revolution.

It is enormous compared to the decoder:

There are 6 inexpensive capacitors in parallel to make track power possible. From all the reports, it's apparent the Revolution is abnormally sensitive to electrical noise on the track inputs. (By the way, this is the problem DCC dealt with 20 years ago, so the Revo is not beyond DCC, but 10-15 years behind DCC in the handling of track power "glitches").

The dang thing is so big, you might have trouble getting all of your electronics into a hood type diesel. There is a small component in series with the leads, it's apparently a thermistor, with a negative temperature coefficient, i.e. a component to limit inrush current. Good. It says NTC 100-9.

 

57076 big

It had 6 2,200mfd caps, for 13,200 mfd at 35v. I don't think this one is available any longer.

 

 

In 2017, I have found this one:

57007

Listed as 57077, but the picture name is 57007. It has 3 3,300mfd caps for a total of 9,900mfd at 25v

This connects to 2 pins on the underside of the on board unit, and you can daisy-chain these cap boards if necessary. I question the 25 volt rating, good engineering practics is rating at double the working voltage to be safe with electrolytics. These should be at least 35 volt if not 50 volt for operation at 24 volts.

At one time the system came with a single cap board. Note this cap is blown, and the voltage rating is 25 volts. I repeat that you should not use this anywhere near 24 volts.

single cap

Some initial units had defective capacitors. Here are later boards, the single cap board for battery power, and the 6 cap board for track power:

 

Notice the capacitor on the left has a "bulge" on the top. This is caused by gas buildup from defective (really cheap) capacitors. This is prevalent in the very cheap Chinese brands. This gas buildup is normally associated with an internal short, at the least it will stop working, this cap will eventually burn up, and sometimes they actually explode.


57077 - "Non-plug-and-play" socket

There have been a number of versions  are a number of "sockets" available.

 

Top right is the original board, with the fuses and diodes and screw terminals for the track/power, and the headlights. The diodes are still there. This board properly supports the decoder at both ends. The part number is CRE57077

Top left is the socket supplied with the original Revolution "kit". It only connects to the 12 pin end of the board, and it has 2 fuses and 2 small diodes. The diodes are there to allow the headlight outputs to work. This is labeled UEXT-02 (v1.1).

Paul Norton reports a version UEXT-10 V1.3 has the diodes by the fuses. (is this a typo and is UEXT-01?)

The original adapter board with 7 wires and no fuses was labeled UEXT-01.

Apparently there is a new "half board" supplied with the system that has screw terminals, and the center terminals are so small they only accomodate one wire, a problem with some installations that have additional components. The later 7-screw terminal adapter CON1 also has the diodes behind the 12-position socket.

57077c

Below is an earlier 57077 board:

CRE 57077

 

And before they discovered they needed the diodes for the headlights to work:

 

 57078 2017


57078 - "Non-plug-and-play" socket

Note: there have been several versions of this board.

Bottom right is the board that allows any polarity to be input, (as in track power), so it has 4 large diodes for a full wave bridge and 2 capacitors to reduce the glitches prevalent in the Revolution upon short power interruptions. The part number is CRE57078.

 

(Photo courtesy of Dave Bodnar)

 

A new version has been released in the summer of 2009 that has 4 diodes and 2 caps on it, to allow the Revo to run from DCC or AC track power. It's not clear that the capacitors on it are sufficient to eliminate the track power problems acknowledged by Aristo. Lewis Polk says that it might work, but they recommend the 6 capacitor board for track power.

Another board (same part number) was made available some time 2014-2016, no fuses, just the diodes. (The diodes are there to provide the "other end" of power for the headlights.

The fusing was a bad idea in my opinion, trapping the fuses deep inside the loco makes it very inconvenient to replace them, put fuses where you can get them, or use self-resetting devices like a PolySwitch.


57079 - "active linear plug and play board"

In 2017 a new socket for the on board decoders was made available, with filtering to produce "linear" instead of PWM output, as well as diodes to rectify input voltage to a constant polarity and includes a socket too.

You can use this as a standalone full wave bridge and PWM filter for other applications

57079 linboard

 

G SCale Graphics offers a PWM to Linear converter:

Note: the Crest CRE-57079 was a full wave bridge rectifier, used to ensure proper polarity to the Revo when running from track power.

CRE 57079


57080 - 500ma PWC (PWM) to Linear

1/2 amp converter to give you smooth DC (linear) from PWM (PWC if you speak ancient Aristo)

Yes, I know they still call Pulse Width Modulation Pulse Width Control - no one else calls PWM anything but PWM.

Not really sure under what conditions you would use this.

57080 linlamp 2


57090 - Smoke board, plug and play board and wires

57090 kit

1x Basic Plug & Play Board
1x 1A Smoke Control Board
1x 3pin Wire connector
1x Set Push-Switch
1x 7pin Wire connector
1x Speaker wire connector


57091 / 57091A PWC (PWM) to Linear converter

This device is basically a filter with 2 capacitors and an inductor to "smooth out" the Pulse Width Modulated output (which for some reason is called Pulse Width Control) to something closer to straight DC. This is necessary for some sound systems that interpret ANY PWC output as full speed, and also for lighting circuits that use regulators that become "confused" with the pulsating power, typically USA Trains, and some of the early Aristo units with a microprocessor acting as a voltage regulator. Also Aristo smoke units can have this same issue sometimes (not always)

 

The original 57091 has 2 input terminals and 2 output terminals:

57091 rev1

The unit shown on the Precision RC site differs with 3 terminals as input: (but I cannot figure why, maybe like the new super receiver, the center terminal is not connected.) There are also 2 diodes on this board, you can just see one of them behind the nearest cap.

57091 rev2

 

For the CRE-57091A with the diodes, here is the schematic:

57091a

So the middle terminal maybe could be used to bleed off power at some point? Maybe when the system is shut off, to discharge the caps?


 

 

57103 - fan for super receivers

Note: this is a 24v dc fan.

 

 

 

 

 


 

 

 

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