NCE USB & serial interfaces & JMRI software

NCE USB interface

Recently, NCE made a USB interface to connect to the cab bus. This interface allows the JMRI software to send commands, and apparently will also interface in some way to the PowerCab programming track, i.e. OPS mode programming of train/accessory/signals.

The unit came with a rom to upgrade the power cab to version 1.28c

There are jumpers on the board that must be set according to the type of system it is connected to. JP1 is to set a baud rate, leave open.

  • For a PowerCab system, leave all jumpers off
  • For a system with the SB3 booster, JP4 on
  • For a PH Pro system, JP3 on
  • For "all systems", JP3 and 4 on, but this mode is unclear when to use

Because the board is bare, and might be located anywhere, I decided to put it in a box to protect it. A radio shack #270-1802 is a perfect fit, the board slips down inside like it was made for it.

I put the board inside and started carving 2 holes, one to fit a USB adapter I have, and the other to allow access for an RJ-11 patch cord.

Below is a shot of the board. Two holes have been elongated to match the holes in the case. There's no components or traces nearby.

 

I tapped two of the mounting holes inside for 6-32 and used a couple of short screws (used to mount computer hard drives):

There are 2 small leds, one in the lower left corner, labeled USB, and one in the lower right corner labeled CAB BUS. I may get a piece of light pipe to extend these to the top. or perhaps a clear cover.

 Installing the driver:

First step to install is download and install the driver. Internally, the USB interface uses a SiLabs CP210x USB to serial chip (the interface is really a serial port in the QSI decoder).

  1. Go here and get the latest driver: https://www.silabs.com/products/development-tools/software/usb-to-uart-bridge-vcp-drivers
  2. Be sure to get the version for your operating system.
  3. Install it WITHOUT the USB interface connected.
  4. After the install, then connect the USB interface and the driver should load and find the hardware.
  5. Then go to the control panel and look up the device under "ports" and it will tell you what COM port number it installed as. Remember this number, you will need it for JMRI.

Now the driver should be ready for the system.

Connecting to the NCE system:

USB Interface:

For the USB box, you connect the USB to your computer that will run JMRI, and the other end to the NCE cab bus. Notice you should use a 4 wire cable. Also note that since teh USB interface looks like another throttle, and is directly connected to the cab bus, it must have an address like other cabs. When used with the PowerCab, it's address must be 3, so be sure not to use address 3 for your other cabs.

(Cab bus addresses when used with an SB3 are limited to 2-5, power pro systems can use 2-63)

Serial Interface:

For the NCE 5 and 10 amp systems, they have an ordinary 9 pin serial port, and a standard serial cable is used, DB-9 is the connector type. If your computer does not have a serial port, then you will need a USB to serial dongle. Get one with a genuine FTDI chip. The drivers are on their site. Go with a cheap clone and all you will have is headaches.

Installing JMRI:

Just go to the official site and download JMRI for your system. I'm only going to address the Windows version. Install it with the defaults

Connecting to JMRI:

Go to edit...preferences and select connections. Select NCE and then USB or serial as above. Now select the serial port (that I said to remember on the USB). I'm using the USB v7 version (I need to put in a part to determine the version), and then the system PowerCab or PowerPro, or which you have. Don't worry about the rest.

Now another thing I did not notice at first... the next menu down on the left is Defaults, and for some reason, you have to tell the system to use the NCE system for all of these, they were all set to Internal except one. Really dumb, if you are adding an interface, why doesn't the system then issue commands to it automatically.

Running from a local throttle:

The next thing I would recommend is to open a throttle (actions... New Throttle) .... select an address in the Address Panel and hit SET ... you should be able to control the loco. It's possible you need to go to the menu at top and selece Power, and then power on. At this point the loco should run. Don't hit Dispatch or Release, because they do exactly what they say.

Start up WiTrhrottle for cell phone control:

When you have all this working, and your computer is already hooked to a wireless network (wired or wireless does not matter), go to Actions... Start WiThrottle Server. Now you get a new windows, and it has 3 lines at top. Advertising... then the name of your computer that JMRI is running on, and most importantly, the IP address and  port number like this:

192.168.10.100:12090

The first 4 numbers are the address of the server on the network, the second number is the port, and 12090 is the default.

Now, making sure your cell phone is connected to your network, you start the app on your phone and put that address in, if the app does not find it automatically.

 

You should be running trains now.

 

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